What the Heck, Episode 54: Stephen Thompson, Jimmy Flick, Julian Marquez and Randy Costa


On this week’s episode of What the Heck, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck speaks with former UFC flyweight Jimmy Flick (6:50) following his surprising retirement announcement on Saturday night and discussed what led to his decision, what he meant by saying the UFC “is not looking out for me” in his retirement speech, why a conversation with his father helped make the decision more clear, plans to write a book about his journey, fighters not unionizing, whether he believes he has fought his final fight, and much more.

UFC welterweight Stephen Thompson (50:11) talks his recently announced matchup with Gilbert Burns set for UFC 264 on July 10, the ongoing heat between Dustin Poirier and Conor McGregor, getting the opportunity to fight somebody ranked above him for the first time in several appearances, getting to control his own destiny the title fight between Kamaru Usman and Jorge Masvidal at UFC 261, and not being a fan of Jake Paul.

UFC bantamweight Randy Costa (1:16:07) discusses the injury that forced him out of his fight with Trevin Jones in March and now being in the best shape of his career, wanting a fight with Adrian Yanez and the friendly, competitive rivalry they’ve created, the universal praise the potential booking has received amongst fans, when he’d be ready to return, and why he’s choosing Jake Paul to defeat Ben Askren.

Finally, UFC middleweight Julian Marquez (1:47:07) recaps his second-round submission win over Sam Alvey at UFC Vegas 23 this past Saturday, being the most nervous he has been in any fight he’s had in a long time, talks his belief that referee Mark Smith shouldn’t be blamed for when he stopped the fight, his callouts of Kansas City Chiefs stars Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill to a pickleball match, what has happened since his post-fight interview with those discussions, as well as positive and negative reactions of the fight on social media.

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